@shibacomputer I'm not sure you can scale p2p realtime video to such large groups though. The fact that Zoom works so much 'better' than things like Jitsi (which works really well) is that Zoom has infra colocated at all the major ISPs and IXPs so you have extremely small latencies. Similar strategy to Netflix. Its an infrastructural advantage that is hard to match client-side.
However considering academia's reliance on Zoom and academias historic development of networking infra through things like SURFnet in NL and NORDUNET in northern europe, it is absurd that there is no F/LOSS set up developed for those use cases because all the infrastructural groundwork is there..
@rra I’ve thought about this a lot and would be interested in experimenting with scaling and performance. I don’t see Zoom as a good replacement for a 200+ participant event, but 10? 20? 50? 64?
@rra Could the interface encourage a rotation of video, measuring the collective bandwidth of a group and adjust the number of concurrent video streams to ensure a minimum threshold of quality?
@shibacomputer also, fuck it, why not have the video in 1-bit dithering Gameboy Camera style.
@rra @shibacomputer Or why have video at all? I understand in a real classroom eye contact is important but we need to accept that's gone here. Unless you are screen-sharing something very specific, this is mostly just a precocious imitation of TV talking head aesthetics at a huge cost of complexity and resources for close to zero information.
@shibacomputer @mouloud @rra That would be super interesting! Do you want to try some collective notes on a crypt pad? https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/X8mLgJMYdJcxUjKzLClbX1Zg/
@rra @mouloud @shibacomputer Exactly. Or perhaps a group has delegated responsibility to someone and that needs some formal or informal acknowledgement. Some of the things listed may in fact be "bad" in a lot of cases but I think it might be useful to list all kinds of social functions first. We can only get into questions of ethics and power relations once we've examined the situations from many angles.
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