I've been quite inspired recently by finding a ton of cool personal websites and wikis and thought I would share my views on how freeing it is to make your own: https://ritualdust.com/craft/make-yourself-a-website/

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@ritualdust i got into the personal website rabbit hole about a year ago and i haven't looked back since. to be honest, the modern web is overrated and gentrified to the core where you have to accept cookies for everything ever as well as dealing with a load of bloat.

i'm glad i got into this rabbit hole, but i wish i was around in the 90's (2001 baby here, now 20 years old) so that i could have experienced the early days of the web instead of experiencing it through second hand nostalgia.

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@rozina glad you went there, it is really bad indeed, I work as a software engineer making some of these apps for a company and it's draining my life force haha, it's so bad also how capitalism pushed everyone to become a "personal brand" and try to sell something. If there's resources or websites that helped you get into it without that previous knowledge feel free to share, I'd really like to make it as accessible as possible to new people :)

@ritualdust it sure is bad, and i don't really fancy becoming a personal brand, not to mention monetising hobbies because capitalism.

one of the things that helped me get into it was this essay: neustadt.fr/essays/the-small-w as well as browsing the brutalist websites website for design inspiration and reading books about net.art (specifically internet art by rachel greene)

@rozina @ritualdust Hey, I was 20 in the 90ies. And I was lucky to have a computer and internet at home.

The closest thing I find today of the experience of the 90ies web is to go on the #Tor hidden network. And look for websites there. They take a while to load. And you don't know what you're gonna get. The way to navigate is to hop from one website to another (no good search engine on the dark web) and hope to find a good page that lists to a load of other good sites.

@xuv @ritualdust ah i might give tor/the dark web a try at some point

@rozina @ritualdust I was around for the late 90s web and I think it's really easy to think too fondly on it. Things could feel pretty bloated then, too, because most average users didn't have high-speed access. Sites had less interactivity, but there were plenty of web 'zines (Gothic.net was my favorite then). Digital cameras didn't exist, so even a picture of yourself was a bit of a feat. Probably the nicest part was that lynx worked with everything.

@roadriverrail @ritualdust ah i think nostalgia of any kind makes you see the past with rose coloured glasses

@rozina @ritualdust A little bit, yes. There's a super valid criticism that "the capitalist Web" has fundamentally gone the wrong way and that "browser as an applications platform" has sacrificed openness, community, accessibility, and many other things. We should want to take those things back. But we should also remember that the 90s Web required technological skill to be a part of, which was itself also undemocratic, and that bloat always scales to what technology will endure.

@roadriverrail @rozina @ritualdust 16 years old me without any computer classes/prior knowledge figured out my way through geocities, and put stuff online. I wonder what the equivalent of that is today, and if could have figured it out.

@neauoire @rozina @ritualdust 16 y/o me used Tripod and there was definitely a lot of editing HTML by hand. But even moreso, there was also the challenge of finding a local ISP (I learned one existed through the BBS community, which required technical skill to navigate), getting set up with them, etc, and getting Windows 3.1 and later Win95 rigged up for dial-up networking. I don't think we can use ourselves as measures of ease of access in technology.

@neauoire @rozina @ritualdust Likely the equivalent of a personal Geocities page today would be something like about.me or Squarespace. Or just having a Twitter feed. A Twitter feed and an early Geocities page actually have a lot in common.

@roadriverrail fwiw neocities.org is a thing. afaict it's the closest we've got today to a modern geocities.

/ @neauoire @rozina @ritualdust

@epilanthanomai @roadriverrail @neauoire @ritualdust i've been using neocities for about a year now and it sure does feel like the modern day version of geocities

@neauoire @roadriverrail @rozina @ritualdust during my time it was having a tumblr blog and learning code by tweaking the themes others have coded

@sophia @neauoire @roadriverrail @ritualdust ah i did used to have a tumblr but i didn't know how to use it, let alone know that i could create my own themes using just html and css. i wonder if tumblr's still around though :thaenkin:

@sophia @roadriverrail @neauoire @ritualdust oof i would have loved to check out myspace when it was in its heyday (i'm assuming 2005ish), but i was a literal child, so i couldn't

@rozina @sophia @neauoire @ritualdust Tumblr is still around. There was a whole hullabaloo about them banning sexual content a year or two ago, IIRC. Incidentally, I'm so of-the-90s that I never even properly learned CSS.

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