question about Ubuntu alternatives 

Hi Lurk and fediverse, you obviously have an opinion on linux distros so help me out:

What do you think is the best non-Ubuntu distro for nontechnical people?

I'm installing ubuntu on a friend's new laptop, mostly because that's what he's been using. But after booting, i'm horrified at the current state of this distro, suggesting loads of proprietary software on the first boot and omitting valid F/LOSS alternatives.

So I'm now boycotting Ubuntu/Canonical/etc, and trying to figure out a good alternative. I'd prefer a debian derivative since that's what I'm used to (and thus can help with support) but I'm also looking elsewhere, mostly something that can be used and serviced without hand-holding.

tl;dr: user-friendly and freedom-respecting distro alternatives to Ubuntu?

question about Ubuntu alternatives 

@rlafuente I'm using Mint on an old laptop and it seems pretty accessible to me. But didn't delve into the politics of it tbh

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question about Ubuntu alternatives 

@entreprecariat thank you! Mint also brings some proprietary stuff, but at least doesn't try to get you to install Microsoft Teams on first boot 馃檪

And I'm pretty grateful for their efforts in making Gnome work properly with Cinnamon and MATE. We (Manufactura) used it as a VM for people to try out Linux some 10 years ago at Medialab Prado, and it's beautiful+usable.

I'm probably going with Manjaro, with Linux Mint as a backup option... thanks again!

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