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I am wondering if our sensibility to images will change with the rise of AI made imagery. Could it be similar to our relationship to handcrafted object / machine made object? Or maybe something more radical, like a wish for some of us to ignore / ban AI made graphics? That last scenario would require some tagging mechanism. Except DALL-E 2 signature (colored squares in the bottom right corner), I don’t know if any tagging / metadata exists yet.

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@raphael If you consider the similarities to stock footage (photography / illustration) or fiverrrr in terms of types of images produced and the economies behind it I think the longer term attitudes will be fairly similar. It doesn't matter if the creator is an AI or an underpaid clickworker. In a way this is a further automation / deskilling of an already faux-tomated industry.

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@rra That’s right. But instead of underpaid workers, AI generators could automatically tag creations more easily, both because it is easy to do technically, but also because the border between AI-made / human made and Well paid / underpaid is more clear (hm, is it really…)

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@raphael the answer will probably be quite different depending on who is "us" and even the context of their use/consumption of images. I think there are definitely instances where the origin of the image, its author(s) or the way it was produced is irrelevant to the uh.. "end user". From students who use Google Images for their moodboards, to fans of Archillect.
(and there's surely a whole other discussion to have about images outside of the creative field, whatever image that has more a status of "documentation")

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@raphael I’m tempted to turn to good old Walter Benjamin for this question … Not necessarily his elaborations on the ‘aura’ but the idea that the way in which human sense perception is organized is determined by historical circumstances. In the age of mass production and mechanical reproduction individual reactions are predetermined by the mass audience. What determines the individual reaction to AI images which are generated through a mass aggregation of data?

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@raphael tiens, je lis ici : https://bakztfuture.substack.com/p/statement-on-stable-diffusion

> "Since its release, I believe SD has come with a NSFW filter as well as a secret “signature” which can be detected."

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@yhancik Un autre article sur les plateformes qui prennent plus ou moins partie sur la question. waxy.org/2022/09/online-art-co

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@raphael @yhancik wondering if there is some tools you can train with small sample counts, like your own production to make more of it ...
I use style transfer in that way, (or with public domain base) and I think it's legitimate to use those techniques that way ... but indeed there is legitimate prejudice against those big models trained on everything that goes ...

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@Olm_e @yhancik I am not against those things, just very curious where this could lead our creative process. I am not against, but a way to technically identify AI productions would help if one day, I decide to be against!

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@Olm_e @raphael si j'ai bien compris avec peu d'images tu as de l'overfitting, ou en tout cas tu vas retrouver dans ce que tu génères des choses très (voire trop) proches de ton dataset de départ.
Je crois qu'il y a moyen (comme il me semble l'avoir déjà vu pour du texte) d'apprendre uniquement les particularismes de ton dataset à un modèle déjà plus complexe... mais du coup on en revient à ces fichus gros modèles. Je crois qu'il y a vraiment pas grand chose à faire (pour l'instant), c'est forcément basé sur des datasets gigantesques dont la constitution sera toujours probablement questionnable...

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