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I'm currently looking at trying to some smaller orgs off of the disposable php-cms treadmill. You know the story – some designer+nerd friend sets up some PHP with a dozen plugins and a fancy theme. Two years later the whole thing breaks and is impossible to upgrade. 3 years after that you just have to take it and the 300 posts it had down because somebody keeps trying to use it to send spam. It can be pretty sad.

Static sites have their foibles but for a small org they are very attractive in that they should mostly work for a decade or two and can even be tweaked by hand if you need to, even if the generating software rots to bits.

But I don't want to teach everyone git + Markdown + special tags etc.

So, I've been looking at some GUI front-ends for stuff like Hugo and other static site generators. Does anyone have experience with this kind of situation and setup?

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@praxeology I tried getpublii.com/ the other day didnt like many of the defaults but really appreciated the ease of use

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@rra @praxeology definitely think publii was a step forward in what a static generator publishing workflow could look like

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@decentral1se @rra @praxeology Publii is not bad yanno.

There's not many free themes yet available though. It's an electron app also ofc.

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@rra woo yeah this is neat! The "Someone/I should some day build ..." thing I've been thinking and talking about with some folks, only someone actually built it. :D GPL even, sweet. Thanks for the hint and inspiration! And thanks @praxeology for the thread, super interested in that research too! :)

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@rra @praxeology I showed this (publii) to a friend who does design work for clients (and is enthusiastic about small tech). One note from him was "I can already hear clients whining that they can't update their site from an internet cafe in Dubai". Sometimes it feels to me that every technical challenge in making small tech usable is trivial in the face of getting the "Everything needs to be possible" big tech attitude out of people's heads. :(

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@praxeology I think https://getgrav.org/ can fit your needs. It’s inspired by (non-free non-libre but super famous) https://getkirby.com/

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@praxeology you can use hooks in your static site generator to load content from "headless" CMS APIs that are mostly wordpress-like for end-users and then git and static files for developers. https://getcockpit.com is worth taking a look at

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@praxeology take a look at prose.io

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@praxeology lektor! getlektor.com/ it comes with a html gui! once I had the gui running on a server with a .htaccess. so I could do changes from everywhere!

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@praxeology interested to see what suggestions come up, I looked into doing something like this years ago. Never found anything that eliminated the need to understand how the SSG worked and just ended up adding more layers of complexity.

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@praxeology Hugo unsung netlify as a GUI.

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@praxeology forestry.io/ is worth mentioning too. Proprietary but I was impressed by the one test I did (gitlab repo + Netlify + forestry)

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