during a long walk today I was pondering what a dialogue between Jenny Odell and Byung-Chul Han might look like.

They both agree that vision is important to the conduct of a contemplative life and that we need to cultivate this skill. They also agree that we have to transcend the self, and that resisting the attention economy/achievement society requires a collective project of resistance.

However, I think Han is less optimistic than Odell about the will as a possible source of redemption and resistance. Instead, he thinks redemption may lie in the collective fatigue engendered by achievement society.

Anyway, can we make this dialogue happen for real please?

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