As a small tech tradeoff and an experiment I'm integrating a soft paycurtain: Albums can display a price tag, (including a user interaction for setting a price for "name your price" albums), payment directions are given (Liberapay, SEPA, etc. as configured), but the payment itself is not technically enforced, i.e. the listener is asked to affirm by themselves - by clicking a button - that they have paid for what they want, and only then given the download link. I'm open to experiment further with this when I've released faircamp (current codename) to the public. I could also imagine an option for integrating a hard paywall based on entering a token that could e.g. be made exclusively available to your backers on an external platform (ghost, patreon, steady, paypal, ...).
Been fleshing out the first prototype all day today, and having a blast! ✌️
@freebliss Interesting! Is there a specific reason on why you chose the project or just plain curiosity?
@rostiger I want this badly myself so I can host some of my previous music projects :) (and maybe it will serve as an encouragement for me to get back to producing new stuff too ;))
@freebliss So I guess my question should have rather been: why don't you use Bandcamp?
@rostiger Good point :) There's many factors, one being that I'm currently researching online funding and specifically technological independence related to funding for a potential paid project, so to some degree this has been prompted by the findings of my research over the last weeks. Another is that I'm very much into giving structure and order to media, as in, finding the most simple and beautiful ways to arrange them, and this is an opportunity to do that in-depth with audio, which I haven't so far (or it's been a while at least). And lastly, towards myself it would feel a bit inflated to put my audio projects up on bandcamp right now - I've got a wild mix of demos, improvisations, rehearsal outtakes, gig recordings, experimental noise :D, really old stuff ... I'm not even sure what exactly I want to put up, but I think the process itself - of digging out stuff again, and considering what I want to continue on maybe - will be the really interesting thing, and that somehow feels more at home at my own self-hosted place. :) (and then of course also: making new free software to share with everyone <3 can't help it haha)
@davidak Hey David o/ I checked out funkwhale before - I really hope they can sustain themselves further as I'd love to see them blossom! For me personally it's too much though and with faircamp I'm building something really simple instead: A website for browsing, listening and downloading(/purchasing) music - no metrics, no social, just you and the music (and wallet, optionally). ;)
As for hugo I think that would just add unneeded complexity and dependance here - the conventional SSG parts in faircamp are trivial, in fact, these are pretty much done already. However I do want to get into Go very soon, including hugo for potential one-shot SSG projects, which is where it really shines, I believe!
Thanks so much for that linked write-up on funding, that looks amazingly in-depth and well researched - hats off to you! :) As for my own research, I haven't written anything down yet I'm afraid as it's so far been strictly on the side and for my own planning/brainstorming. I'll let you know if and when I put some of it in writing! Just one addition from a cursory glance over your research: I think you might have missed out on https://ghost.org (which I only recently have discovered and which looks almost too good to be true). ;)
@freebliss i know ghost as a blog software, but haven't seen their subscription model. that's something that does work (see Patreon), but is not compatible with free software values, since you have to offer exclusive content to paying members
our solution has to solve the freerider problem, so people have incentives to support the project without getting exclusive content. we think our crowdmatching mechanism does that, but we still have to test it
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