If NFTs were really about supporting digital artists then you should just send your favorite artists money. That is the least mediated most useful material way to support their practice.
@xj9 but it's not the same because then you are asking the artist to mint the token, exchange a volatile asset to currency they can use, and engage in a electrically hungry transaction. None of which is required to just send them some money, which they can use right away and has no other requirements.
@xj9 i also align with anarchism is many ways. however, crypto is definitely not anarchist, at best it's libertarian-capitalist in its design and philosophy.
You can send cash, for example. Unfortunately, as an artist I still need to use local gov currency for food and rent, which makes it by far the most materially useful and has the biggest impact on my life. It is stable and I know if someone sends me $100 for something then it will still be $100 when I need it.
Crypto is definitely not free from corruption or interests often as bad as creditcards, and worse than many governments.
@xj9 yes, and we live in a society... crypto doesn't avoid any of that, but adds technical obfuscation, instability, and electrical waste at a massive scale.
it also philosophically extends the late-capitalist notion of financializing everything and turning all activity into a speculative investment asset. all of which is unnecessary and fails to address the deep issues we continue to face.
@xj9 also, think about who's actually backing (and largely running) crypto networks. it's not really distributed or egalitarian ... if i am forced to buy into a fucked up system, i at least choose the one that facilitates my ability to live.
@xj9 for technical consideration yes. For ideological, not really.
I don’t think this conversation is going to lead to either of us shifting opinions, honestly.
@xj9 I do understand. And what I’m saying is that:
a) “not-state” and “not-corporate” don’t mean that it is better
b) in order to live, and make art, i still need state currency. so any nft/crypto payment needs to be converted and is volatile. it isn’t useful in itself, so it always a layer on top of the existing structures.
c) ideologically it is aligned with the goal of total financialization — all transactions, relationships, and things as investable assets. this is not the world i want to live in.
@emenel I've done that, and I'm happy to do it, and will probably never buy an NFT.
But some artists make it *so* hard to give them money. The ones I support have got on board with the idea and taken the trouble to make it work, but sometimes it's so hard.
People: If you want others to give you money, make it easy for them.
(And I agree entirely with your post).
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