The Irish DCP is an absolute mess. As an Irish citizen, I am embarrassed about this to no end.
A few weeks ago, the Irish Council for Civil Liberties published a report on the the DPC's inability to process major GDPR cases. Many large cases must proceed through Ireland because of loads of HQs being in Dublin and Ireland. https://www.iccl.ie/digital-data/2021-gdpr-report/
This week, the national annual budget was published here. The DPC received an additional €4.1m in funding pushing their total funds to €23.2m. This news was accompanied by this statement https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/news-media/press-releases/data-protection-commission-statement-budget-2022 where all is happy and green.
I have been in Ireland now for 3 years and I remain vastly unaware of irish critical citizen movements in the 'technology' area. I wonder if you might know of any @ephemeral @annika @mairin @seachaint @torrejuseppe @aral or other Ireland-close fedi people? Would be keen to support actions in this space.
The Irish Data Protection Commission (DPC) is what you get when you try to have a tenant regulate their landlord.
Google, Facebook, etc., own Ireland right now.
All they have to do is raise the spectre of pulling out and taking Irish jobs with them to have the government shaking in its boots.
You expect these folks to regulate? If so, I’d like to talk to you sometime about a bridge I’m selling in Brooklyn.
@aral it has also been underfunded. I met the acting commissioner about six years ago, who was so swamped with complaints that they said it would be five years before they answered the current batch of emails. They have since hired about 30 more people to work in the office (at the time the DPC was two people!), but the commission is an intentionally soft roadblock to a tidal wave of offences by big technology companies.
It is potentially a very powerful office.
@ephemeral Regulation must be centrally handled at the EU-level, not within individual countries or Big Tech will simply locate itself in the weakest/most dependent countr(ies) as it has done with Ireland to stave off regulation.
I’m not saying the EU will execute on regulating Big Tech any better (or even that it actually has the desire to do so). I’m just saying it’s stronger than individual states. And this is about power.
@aral yes fair point. Apologies for other reply which echoes this - crossed wires. Think we are saying roughly the same thing.
@aral but arguably could be. At the least, Ireland could become a bottleneck. I think part of the problem is that, as the only primarily English speaking country in the EU, the burden has fallen on Ireland to police powerful companies.
Another important point is that Arthur Cox LLC are the legal representatives of all those big tech companies in the EU, and are a Dublin based law firm. They have a long understanding of our judicial system so can obfusticate matters effectively.
@ephemeral well, the actual problem is that Ireland is where most tech companies' European subsidiaries are located. And that is entirely due to the ridiculous tax breaks they have been getting there, which directly led to the EU bailout of Ireland in 2008.
Hopefully that is over now with the recent tax agreement.
@colm interesting question. There are definitely pockets of critical tech discourse, but they are fragmented. Dublin Art and Technology Association (DATA) used to run brilliant events on discourse, but they have more or less folded (existent but dormant). I can't think of active collectives. Want to make one?
I think part of the problem is that discourse is met with a fear that jobs might be lost, which is preposterous because they aren't real jobs to begin with, as you suggest.
| Want to make one ?
Don't know what to do or how to do it but yes I think there is a need for a stance of some type.
Super. I'm up for it too. Let's start with a Jitsi call and an etherpad. We could each ask a couple of like-minded folk to join a call and keep it small and friendly for now.
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