Its not a "hackspace" if most of your programme is about proprietary, closed source tools. Its an obedient consumer space.

Fite me.

I'm very tired and punchier than necessary, but if people want to pay to study commercial software, this is exactly what the post-1992 sector is for. Those are *also* community spaces and the people working in them have the rights of regular workers and are generally in a union.

It's unclear what students gain from a more informal organisation over normal FE or HE, but its extremely clear what workers lose.

If, instead, you want a space with peer learning and shared ownership of tools, that's Foss. Its free/libre and open.

Post 1992s are also great and they offer all kinds of certificates in using commercial, branded software. They're good at this.

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Its midnight on a Wednesday morning. Now is a good time to antagonise perfectly nice people doing their best.

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@celesteh i can guess what you're referring to, but i can't help but imagine...

"this is a perfectly safe obedient consumer space. here we learn to use these important beneficial corporate tools as and only as intended. we will teach you how to avoid common mistakes and how to not accidentally give in to vulnerabilities or workarounds, and demonstrate for educational purposes why certain specific reverse engineering methods are dangerous, highly illegal and not to be replicated on one's own..."

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