Podcast about interesting digital democracy developments in Taiwan.
A Microsoft employee interviews Tiawans non-binary Digital Minister, a free software activist, who rigged up networking so discussions could be displayed outside during the 2014 sunflower movement occupation of the parliamentary building

https://your-undivided-attention.simplecast.com/episodes/the-listening-society-yZ1PBlPF.
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Wow, thanks for sharing that! Super interesting/intriguing, and also so much to unpack in this interview: from the cybernetic view of society (not quite the same but reminded me a bit of cybersin), the implied technosolutionist surveillance dimension of this form of democracy, and the governmental participation into meme wars. Regarding the use of rough consensus and integration of opposing voices into the shaping of new regulations, I would be curious to see how that works with concrete examples.

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@dazinism @douginamug thanks! I will definitively dive more into this, can't believe I missed this. For me, the indirect takeaway from the Wired article is how the whole system is very much linked to the startup hacker scene (as opposed to more grassroot communities), which I think explains why this got the attention of MS (podcast) and Nesta (link in Wired), and in general the rising market of digital democracy tools.

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Not sure, maybe, but I didnt get that. The people profiled are obviously skilled coders/hackers, but startups don't really come into it (dont think g0v.tw is really a 'startup'?)

Think its more the hacker lead effort side of it & the way the gov brought Audrey in as Digital Minister thats noteworthy to these media outlets

Major part of why it all happened is because of the Sunflower Movement- pretty grassroots - anti-China, which might be part of why it got more media?
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